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  Ban appeal
Posted by: Coxinary - 7 hours ago - Forum: Ban Appeals - Replies (1)

Character Name: Pomo

Ban Reason: CHEAT:OverspeedDist(Tick:2244)

Information about your ban: I was in Warsong, a druid (Oomfire I think) REZ me I accepted his resurection, I found myself at the cemetery, and disconnected directly from the server ...

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  Hi My name is Arnoldus
Posted by: Fox613 - 09-21-2018, 04:00 PM - Forum: Introduce Yourself - Replies (1)

Hi my name is Arnoldus and it is nice to join you guys.

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  New Core Patch notes?
Posted by: Drage - 09-21-2018, 10:43 AM - Forum: Off-Topic - Replies (1)

Is there anywhere to read up on what the new core brought? Also when was the damage and rage generation nerfed? I feel they broke warriors without remorse and probably wont care and meet the same problem blizzard had. That the staff were PVE players.

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  Ban appeal - dakac019
Posted by: dakac019 - 09-20-2018, 08:58 PM - Forum: Ban Appeals - Replies (1)

One of your characters from the banned account: Dakac


Ban Reason: CHEAT:OverspeedDist(Tick:2244)

Information about your ban: I am not sure why I got banned. I was in AV and I died. While I was dead the Av finished and I got stuck dead inside the bg. I got resurrected in a couple of seconds and disconnected at the same moment. Check it out plz. 

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  Ban Appeal - Shamanation
Posted by: Shamanation - 09-20-2018, 07:59 PM - Forum: Ban Appeals - Replies (1)

One of your characters from the banned account: Shamantion
Ban Reason: Investigation
Information about your ban: I have no idea why my account has been banned. I am big donater of the server and have been with Retro since 2015. I've been banned for quite a while and I still have no idea why. I was just not able to log on one day and that was it. No reason was ever given.
Additional Information: I would really appreciate my ban being lifted or at least a reason why. I have never once cheated or violated the rules.  I will not spend lots of real money just to cheat and get my account banned. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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  Ban appeals OverspeedDIst (again)
Posted by: smokdiseasee - 09-20-2018, 01:49 AM - Forum: Ban Appeals - Replies (1)

Account: smkdisease
One of your characters from the banned account: Sadaronne
Ban Reason: Cheat : OverspeedDist(Tick:854)
Information about your ban:   Same, I was in AV, 4hours game, i died at the last end when scoreboard appear, then i was deconected and banned. 
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  Ban appeals OverspeedDIst
Posted by: smokdiseasee - 09-19-2018, 06:55 PM - Forum: Ban Appeals - Replies (1)

Account: smkdisease2
One of your characters from the banned account: Smokehunt
Ban Reason: Cheat : OverspeedDist(Tick:854)
Information about your ban: I don't know about it,  I was in AV, kind of laggy. I died, i went afk for 2 min then deconected by the game.
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  Ban Appeal
Posted by: Chinapork - 09-19-2018, 03:46 PM - Forum: Ban Appeals - Replies (1)

One of your characters from the banned account: Supqq
Ban Reason: Advert
Information about your ban: When new core came I've said that latency was so horrible Im going to switch a server for a time.
Additional Information: Can't see how that was an advertising, that was not my intention. Anyway, was like 5-6 month or so account was banned, isn't that enough for something like that?

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  Tanking threat is too low
Posted by: mentos987 - 09-19-2018, 03:38 PM - Forum: Server Suggestions - Replies (4)

Background: Tanking has been somewhat difficult on the new core and there are some valid reasons why. I did open a bug tracker a week ago on this topic: https://github.com/RetroWoW/RetroWoW/issues/147 . This quote is regarding the rage generation for boss fights:

"The rage formula may be correct but raiding is converted from 40man to 5man. I am assuming that the boss damage to the tank has been reduced drastically to compensate for having one healer instead of twelve. This means that the rage generated from incoming damage will be drastically reduced as well. Which breaks the system since the threat needed by the tank remains the same." 

Suggestion: To make it just like vanilla you would need to increase the rage generated. But that would mess up the balance in every other situation. This is why I suggest compensation by simply increasing the threat generated by some of the warrior tanking abilities. That way the changes won't affect any dps warr or pvp.

Implementation: Increase threat from Revenge, Sunder Armor and Shield Slam. Don't increase Heroic Strike as dps warriors use that too. But how much to increase the values by? This is a more of a calculation problem and to answer this I am going to make some assumptions:

  • A bis tank tanking Patchwerk should always (95% of the time) have rage to spam as much as he can.
  • All actual threat values will be based on the addon "KTM" so I assume its values are correct and accurate for the current core.
Now I am going to make some estimates based on a raid boss fight I did last night (Patchwerk):
  • I had the rage to convert 1/4 of my white hits to heroic strikes. (Should be able to do 7/8)
  • I were able to keep my global cooldown down for about 65% (very rough estimate) of the time (Should be 90%)
  • Revenge, Sunder Armor and Shield Slam makes up for almost all of the rage used in GCD abilities (90%)
Now for the calculation part:

First, we need to find out how much threat we are missing out on:

Heroic Strike: A white hit nets me 290 threat. A HS nets me 800 (same weapon and no crit)
This means we lose out on (800-290)*5/8=319 threat per hit. My attack speed is 1.5sec (not counting reduction by parries) so the deficit from HS alone ends up being 319/1.5= 213 threat/second

Revenge, Sunder Armor and Shield Slam: Shield Slam= 1500 threat, Sunder Armor= 396 threat Revenge= 935 threat. We can save up rage to use Shield Slam and Revenge so assume that all the loss is on Sunder Armor. This means a 396-0.65*0.9*396 = 164 threat lost per GCD. A GCD is 1.5sec so the deficit becomes 164/1.5=110 threat/second.

Total threat loss: 323 threat per second.

Assuming this is all compensated for by increasing threat done by Revenge, Sunder Armor and Shield Slam we will have to see how many of those we do. We will look over an interval of 30 seconds of fighting. Shield slam will be used on cd (6sec) this means we do 5 of them. Revenge has a 5 sec cd but is a bit more tricky to use. Let's say we use it 4 times. Sunder Armor is where it falls through. Because after we have done the first 5 stacks we don't use it as much. But I estimate I use it about 5 times per 30sec. This means I spend (5+4+5)*1.5=21 of my 30 seconds on these spells. The rest is either wasted (due to lack of rage) or spent on things like Demoralizing Shout.

The threat loss over 30sec will be 323*30=9690 threat, that can be divided up onto these 4+5+5=14 casts (Revenge, Shield Slam and Sunder Armor) in whatever ratio is deemed good.

Here is an example:
Slam       + 1100 threat     *5=5500
Revenge  +800 threat      *4=3200
Sunder    +198 threat      *5=990
                                 total =9690

I know this is not perfect so feel free to correct me. I will try to edit.

I hope it helps, Durzi.

Edit: Yes I do realise that this will mess up KTM somewhat. But I think this is a better deal than messing up pvp/pve dps by changing the rage formula. And I don't see any other good option.

Edit: I would be willing to make a custom KTM for this and upload it on the forum.

Edit: The threat was tested on the boss dummy with zero buffs. I am pretty sure I am not overshooting with the entire estimation.

Edit: Found calculation error.

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  banned by speed hacking detection system
Posted by: victoryfap - 09-19-2018, 05:00 AM - Forum: Ban Appeals - Replies (1)

One of your characters from the banned account: Phanatik
Ban Reason: overspeed/speedhacking
Information about your ban: auto banned by the system that detects overspeed/speed hacking
Additional Information: My internet is terrible and today especially has been fading in and out and i believe my lag spike triggered the speedhacking automated system while i was in wsg. 

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