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Endgame bis for every class's main spec
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1A: Mage, vs. non-undead
1. Frostfire circlet + presence of sight
2. Gem of trapped innocents
3. Rime covered mantle + power of the scourge
4. Cloak of the necropolis + subtlety
5. Frostfire robe + greater stats
6. The soul harvester's bindings + greater intellect
7. Dark storm gauntlets + fire power
8. Eyestalk waist cord
9. Leggings of polarity + presence of sight
10. Frostfire sandals + minor speed
11. Ring of the eternal flame
12. Frostfire ring
13. Neltharion's tear
14. The restrained essence of sapphiron
15. Doomfinger
16. Atiesh + spell power
Threat reduction: t2 gloves, wrists, and boots; 4hm ring instead of t3 ring.

1B: Mage, vs. undead (every Naxx boss except Maexxna and Faerlina)
1. Frostfire circlet + presence of sight
2. Gem of trapped innocents
3. Rime covered mantle + power of the scourge
4. Cloak of the necropolis + subtlety
5. Frostfire robe + greater stats
6. The soul harvester's bindings + greater intellect
7. Dark storm gauntlets + fire power
8. Eyestalk waist cord
9. Leggings of polarity + presence of sight
10. Frostfire sandals + minor speed
11. Ring of the fallen god
12. Seal of the damned
13. Mark of the champion
14. The restrained essence of sapphiron
15. Doomfinger
16. Atiesh + spell power
Threat reduction: t2 gloves, wrists, and boots; Wand of fates instead of Doomfinger.

1C: Mage, ignite stacking for another mage
1. Frostfire circlet + presence of sight
2. Gem of trapped innocents
3. Rime covered mantle + power of the scourge
4. Cloak of the necropolis + subtlety
5. Robe of volatile power + greater stats
6. The soul harvester's bindings + greater intellect
7. Gloves of spell mastery + fire power
8. Eyestalk waist cord
9. Leggings of polarity + presence of sight
10. Frostfire sandals + minor speed
11. Ring of the eternal flame
12. Seal of the damned
13. Eye of diminution
14. Eye of the beast
15. Doomfinger
16. Wraith blade + spell power
17. Sapphiron's left eye
If the mage who you're stacking for doesn't have Atiesh, then Atiesh is bis.

2A: Prot warrior
1. Dreadnaught helmet + presence of might
2. Mark of c'thun
3. Dreadnaught pauldrons + fortitude of the scourge
4. Cryptfiend silk cloak + dodge
5. Dreadnaught breastplate + stats
6. Dreadnaught bracers + superior stamina
7. Gauntlets of steadfast determination + superior agility
8. Dreadnaught waistguard
9. Dreadnaught legplates + presence of might
10. Dreadnaught sabatons + minor speed
11. Ring of emperor vek'lor
12. Ring of the dreadnaught
13. Glyph of deflection (mitigation) / lifegiving gem (Maexxna) / kiss of the spider (threat)
14. Styleen's impeding scarab
15. Soulstring + biznicks 247x128 accurascope
16. The face of death + greater stamina
17. Thunderfury + agility

2B: Prot warrior, threat
WIP

2C: Prot warrior, frost resist
1. Icebane helm + presence of might
2. Mark of c'thun
3. Icebane pauldrons + fortitude of the scourge
4. Cryptfiend silk cloak + dodge
5. Dreadnaught breastplate + greater stats
6. Icebane bracers + superior stamina
7. Icebane gauntlets + superior agility
8. Unmelting ice girdle
9. Icebane leggings + presence of might
10. Dreadnaught sabatons + minor speed
11. Ring of emperor vek'lor
12. Ring of the dreadnaught
13. Onyxia blood talisman
14. Styleen's impeding scarab
15. Crossbow of imminent doom + biznicks 247x128 accurascope
16. The plague bearer + frost resistance
17. Thunderfury + agility (hungering cold during p1)
Using a frost juju puts you at 314 fr, 1 under the cap.

2D: Fury warrior
WIP

3A: Rogue, combat swords, fully world buffed
1. Bonescythe helmet + death's embrace
2. Prestor's talisman of connivery
3. Bonescythe pauldrons + might of the scourge
4. Cloak of concentrated hatred + subtlety
5. Bonescythe breastplate + greater stats
6. Qiraji execution bracers + superior strength
7. Bonescythe gauntlets + superior agility
8. Belt of never-ending agony
9. Bonescythe legplates + death's embrace
10. Bonescythe sabatons + minor speed
11. Band of unnatural forces
12. Bonescythe ring
13. Kiss of the spider
14. Mark of the champion / slayer's crest vs. non-undead
15. Crossbow of imminent doom + biznicks 247x128 accurascope
16. The hungering cold + agility / thunderfury if human
17. Gressil, dawn of ruin + crusader

3B: Rogue, combat swords, no buffs
1. Bonescythe helmet + death's embrace
2. Prestor's talisman of connivery
3. Bonescythe pauldrons + might of the scourge
4. Shroud of dominion + subtlety
5. Bonescythe breastplate + greater stats
6. Bonescythe bracers + superior strength
7. Bonescythe gauntlets + superior agility
8. Belt of never-ending agony
9. Leggings of apocalypse + death's embrace
10. Bonescythe sabatons + minor speed
11. Band of unnatural forces
12. Bonescythe ring
13. Kiss of the spider
14. Mark of the champion / slayer's crest vs. non-undead
15. Nerubian slavemaker + biznicks 247x128 accurascope
16. The hungering cold + agility / thunderfury if human
17. Gressil, dawn of ruin + crusader

3C: Rogue, seal fate daggers, fully world buffed
1. Bonescythe helmet + death's embrace
2. Prestor's talisman of connivery
3. Bonescythe pauldrons + might of the scourge
4. Cloak of concentrated hatred + subtlety
5. Bonescythe breastplate + greater stats
6. Qiraji execution bracers + superior strength
7. Aged core leather gloves + superior agility
8. Belt of never-ending agony
9. Bonescythe legplates + death's embrace
10. Bonescythe sabatons + minor speed
11. Band of unnatural forces
12. Bonescythe ring
13. Kiss of the spider
14. Mark of the champion / slayer's crest vs. non-undead
15. Crossbow of imminent doom + biznicks 247x128 accurascope
16. Death's Sting + agility / thunderfury if human
17. Kingsfall + crusader

3D: Rogue, combat daggers, no buffs
1. Bonescythe helmet + death's embrace
2. Prestor's talisman of connivery
3. Bonescythe pauldrons + might of the scourge
4. Shroud of dominion + subtlety
5. Bonescythe breastplate + greater stats
6. Bonescythe bracers + superior strength
7. Bonescythe gauntlets + superior agility
8. Belt of never-ending agony
9. Leggings of apocalypse + death's embrace
10. Bonescythe sabatons + minor speed
11. Band of unnatural forces
12. Bonescythe ring
13. Kiss of the spider
14. Mark of the champion / slayer's crest vs. non-undead
15. Crossbow of imminent doom + biznicks 247x128 accurascope
16. Death's Sting + agility / thunderfury if human
17. Kingsfall + crusader

4A: Holy paladin
1. Redemption headpiece + syncretist's sigil
2. Gem of trapped innocents
3. Redemption spaulders + resillience of the scourge
4. Cloak of suturing + subtlety or +dodge
5. Redemption tunic + greater stats
6. The soul harvester's bindings + healing
7. Redemption handguards + healing power
8. Redemption girdle
9. Redemption legguards + syncretist's sigil
10. Redemption boots + minor speed
11. Band of unanswered prayers
12. Ring of redemption
13. Eye of the dead
14. Rejuvenating Gem
15. Libram of light
16. Shield of condemnation + stamina
17. Hammer of the twisting nether + healing power

5A: DS warlock (no dot abuse)
1. Plagueheart circlet + hoodoo hex
2. Gem of trapped innocents
3. Plagueheart shoulderpads + power of the scourge
4. Cloak of the necropolis + subtlety
5. Plagueheart robe + greater stats
6. Rockfury bracer + greater intellect
7. Dark storm gauntlets + shadow power
8. Eyestalk waist cord
9. Leggings of polarity + hoodoo hex
10. Plagueheart sandals + minor speed
11. Ring of the fallen god
12. Seal of the damned
13. Neltharion's tear
14. Mark of the champion / The restrained essence of sapphiron vs. non undead
15. Wand of fates
16. Sapphiron's left eye
17. Wraith blade + spell power

6A: Resto druid
1. Dreamwalker headpiece + animist's caress
2. Amulet of the fallen god
3. Dreamwalker spaulders + resillience of the scourge
4. Cloak of clarity + subtlety
5. Dreamwalker tunic + greater stats
6. Dreamwalker wristguards + healing
7. Dreamwalker handguards + healing power
8. Dreamwalker girdle
9. Dreamwalker legguards + animist's caress
10. dreamwalker boots + minor speed
11. Band of unanswered prayers
12. Pure elementium band
13. Eye of the dead
14. Rejuvenating gem
15. Idol of longevity
16. Atiesh + healing power
For KT, use t2 bracers, gloves, and boots.

7A: Holy priest (no t2 abuse)
1. Circlet of faith + prophetic aura
2. Amulet of the fallen god
3. Shoulderpads of faith + resillience of the scourge
4. Cloak of clarity + subtlety
5. Robe of faith + greater stats
6. Bindings of faith + healing
7. Gloves of faith + healing power
8. Belt of faith
9. Empowered leggings + prophetic aura
10. Sandals of faith + minor speed
11. Ring of faith
12. Pure elementium band
13. Eye of the dead
14. Rejuvenating gem
15. Doomfinger
16. Atiesh + healing power

8A: Resto shaman
1. Earthshatter headpiece + vodouisant's vigilant embrace
2. Amulet of the fallen god
3. Earthshatter spaulders + resillience of the scourge
4. Cloak of clarity + subtlety
5. Earthshatter tunic + greater stats
6. Earthshatter wristguards + healing
7. Earthshatter handguards + healing power
8. Earthshatter girdle
9. Earthshatter legguards + vodouisant's vigilant embrace
10. Earthshatter boots + minor speed
11. Pure elementium band
12. Band of unanswered prayers
13. Eye of the dead
14. Rejuvenating gem
15. Totem of flowing water
16. Shield of condemnation + greater stamina
17. Hammer of the twisting nether + healing power

9A: Hunter
1. Cryptstalker headpiece + falcon's call
2. Prestor's talisman of connivery
3. Cryptstalker's spaulders + might of the scourge
4. Shroud of dominion + subtlety
5. Cryptstalker tunic + greater stats
6. Cryptstalker wristguards + superior spirit
7. General's chain gloves + superior agility
8. Cryptstalker girdle
9. Cryptstalker legguards + falcon's call
10. Cryptstalker boots + minor speed
11. Ring of the cryptstalker
12. Band of unnatural forces
13. Slayer's crest
14. Mark of the champion
15. Soulstring + biznicks 247x128 accurascope
16. Hatchet of sundered bone + agility
17. Kingsfall + agility
Note that this setup sits at 10% hit. Hunter hitcap is 8.6%.
The following setups reflect what you should be switching to on each feign death.

9B: Feign swap 1
13. Earthstrike

9C: Feign swap 2
13. Zandalarian hero medallion

9D: Feign swap 3
13. Kiss of the spider
15. Soulstring + sniper scope
16. Claw of the frost wyrm + agility
Feign swap 4 = back to 9A

Changelog, December 9:
1A: t2 gloves and 4hm ring --> c'thun gloves and t3 ring
2A: t3 gloves --> sartura gloves, bugs ring --> emps ring
2B: added
2C: t3 gloves --> icebane, bracer enchant deflection --> stamina, t3 belt --> azuregos, t3 legs --> icebane, hailstone band --> emps ring
2D: added
3A: added
3C: added
3D: added
4A: t3 bracers --> gothik
5A: atiesh --> wraith, gothik bracers --> rockfury, doomfinger --> patch wand
6A: patch cloak --> c'thun
9A: kt neck --> prestor's, nerubian --> slavemaker
9B: added
9C: added
9D: added
Still working on the warrior threat set, the fury set, and the hunter sets. Druid and shaman are also probably not right.

My knowledge of priest, shaman, and druid is pretty minimal, so please reply or find me ingame if you have any input. My alts are:
Calder
Redridge
Maggot
Naxxramas
Snacksramas
Jaugerui
Giant
Oswin
Sadfish
Tabatha
Cory
Keshire
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#2
use hands, feet, wrist of netherwind instead of legs
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#3
Hello, please reconsider some of your Hunter items. Some find pvp boots+gloves preferable due to increased stamina and relatively low agi loss, some prefer agi on cloak instead of -threat, etc.
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#4
Iblis better as human, with agility +15 enchant as offhand, instead of hungering cold. hungering cold is good for non human racials.

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#5
Hello, I have a question regarding your post about hit tables. I'm wondering about the weapon skill,bis overall for dagger rogue, wouldn't it be Death Sting in OH + aged core leather gloves for total of +8 dagger skill, since at that gear level the spec one should have is SF and not the regular 15/31/5 combat spec (thus no weapon expertise).
Or it wouldn't matter that much and would be a huge dps loss compared to t3 gloves + HoD.

Thanks in advance,

Kiva
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#6
I'd use core leather, but it's probably a tossup. +5 skill is good, but so is ~45 AP and a hit... Weapon skill is better though, I'd say. That's just a conjecture based on the fact that most spreadsheets heavily favor hungering over iblis, and the stats difference there is similar.

I would use Death's Sting for sure.

Bis daggers is probably:

(list assumes full world buffs, thus changing what hit is needed to create a proper crit cap. items that should be used when unbuffed are in parentheses)

1. t3 head + zg
2. prestor's
3. skeram cloak + agility or subtlety (saph cloak)
4. t3 shoulders + saph
5. t3 chest + 4 stats
6. emps bracers + strength (t3 bracers)
7. core leather gloves + agility
8. c'thun belt
9. t3 legs + zg (4hm legs)
10. t3 boots + agility or speed
11. loatheb ring
12. t3 ring
13. kiss (crest)*
14. mark of the champion [crest if vs. non undead]
15. ossi crossbow + biznicks (nerubian slavemaker)
16. kingsfall in mainhand + crusader + deadly poison
17. death's sting in offhand + agility + instant poison




Also, on second look most of these bis lists are wrong. I'll update them in a couple hours. In particular, the FR set and the rogue lists are currently pretty bad/inaccurate.

Edit: I updated a bunch of lists. The FR set and the rogue sets are gewd now. I'm still working on prot threat / fury / shaman / druid / hunter.
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#7
Holy Pally needs some adjustment -

Replace - 7. Redemption handguards - with something with crit Gauntlets of Kalimdor -aq40 or Gauntlets of the Righteous Champion - aq40
Replace -  4. Cloak of suturing - with Cloak of Clarity - aq40
Replace -  8. Redemption girdle - with Eyestalk Waist Cord - aq40
Replace - 11. Band of unanswered prayers - with Ring of the Martyr - aq40
Replace - 16. Shield of condemnation - with Death's Bargain - Naxx
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(12-14-2016, 12:18 PM)bahls Wrote: Holy Pally needs some adjustment -

Replace - 7. Redemption handguards - with something with crit Gauntlets of Kalimdor -aq40 or Gauntlets of the Righteous Champion - aq40
Replace -  4. Cloak of suturing - with Cloak of Clarity - aq40
Replace -  8. Redemption girdle - with Eyestalk Waist Cord - aq40
Replace - 11. Band of unanswered prayers - with Ring of the Martyr - aq40
Replace - 16. Shield of condemnation - with Death's Bargain - Naxx


7, 8, and 16: +Healing vs crit is a subjective thing. If you tend to value crit over +healing, these are good swaps to make.

4: 8 +healing is unconditionally better than 3 mp5, in my opinion.

11: 11 intellect is unconditionally better than 5 mp5, again just in my opinion.
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(12-15-2016, 11:00 PM)Maggot Wrote:
(12-14-2016, 12:18 PM)bahls Wrote: Holy Pally needs some adjustment -

Replace - 7. Redemption handguards - with something with crit Gauntlets of Kalimdor -aq40 or Gauntlets of the Righteous Champion - aq40
Replace -  4. Cloak of suturing - with Cloak of Clarity - aq40
Replace -  8. Redemption girdle - with Eyestalk Waist Cord - aq40
Replace - 11. Band of unanswered prayers - with Ring of the Martyr - aq40
Replace - 16. Shield of condemnation - with Death's Bargain - Naxx


7, 8, and 16: +Healing vs crit is a subjective thing. If you tend to value crit over +healing, these are good swaps to make.

4: 8 +healing is unconditionally better than 3 mp5, in my opinion.

11: 11 intellect is unconditionally better than 5 mp5, again just in my opinion.

Also t3 set bonus has a nice heal when dispelling which is awesome in pvp and usefull in pve
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(12-15-2016, 11:33 PM)LeMinistre Wrote:
(12-15-2016, 11:00 PM)Maggot Wrote:
(12-14-2016, 12:18 PM)bahls Wrote: Holy Pally needs some adjustment -

Replace - 7. Redemption handguards - with something with crit Gauntlets of Kalimdor -aq40 or Gauntlets of the Righteous Champion - aq40
Replace -  4. Cloak of suturing - with Cloak of Clarity - aq40
Replace -  8. Redemption girdle - with Eyestalk Waist Cord - aq40
Replace - 11. Band of unanswered prayers - with Ring of the Martyr - aq40
Replace - 16. Shield of condemnation - with Death's Bargain - Naxx


7, 8, and 16: +Healing vs crit is a subjective thing. If you tend to value crit over +healing, these are good swaps to make.

4: 8 +healing is unconditionally better than 3 mp5, in my opinion.

11: 11 intellect is unconditionally better than 5 mp5, again just in my opinion.

Also t3 set bonus has a nice heal when dispelling which is awesome in pvp and usefull in pve


It might be worth splinting this list for pve and pvp due to things like 8 set bonus which is amazing for pvp but not very good in pve, the only boss worth wearing 8/8 for as a pally is maex due to he amount of poison you cleanse off the tank and the armor to last phase 3 spiders. 

I agree with the 7. glove they take away to much + healing so t3 def the best, I 100% think the belt is correct  Eyestalk is 41 healing to t3s 40 so the value is 1 crit or 5 mp5 which id probably choose crit in that case. 

As to 11 int to 5 mp5 that is also a tuff call, the int adds to crit which is nice but 110 extra mana over 5 mp5 is not better, good pallys dont rely on a big mana pool to last in a fight so again it really comes down to some int for crit or hard mp5 and in the case of 11 int to 5 mp5 ids go mp5 all day.
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