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Quests giving world buff. - fyrinx - 01-31-2019

Hello.

I and very many others are fond of Ony/Nef- buff, ZG buff and other stuff. So why add quests which gives such buffs? Ashara Crater tokens would be great for it. The quests could give the bugg to everyone in the zone or only to the person completing it.

Right now people kinda has to make new character and get ony/nef head to get the buff for everybody in Stormwind or Orgrimmar if not a GM decides to have some fun in Hyjal buffing everyone.


RE: Quests giving world buff. - Feltham - 01-31-2019

Since they don't persist through death, I think this is okay - but make the cost such that people won't have world buffs on all the time. I don't do Azshara Crater quests, so I'm unsure of what a token is worth in terms of time or gold.

However, the buffs would work best as personal, otherwise this could easily be exploited.


RE: Quests giving world buff. - fanta - 01-31-2019

Core is 1.8 i think (not sure) but its for sure before 1.10 so hoh and zanzas presist through death.... ehhh wbuffs on a npcs? i woudnt realy care at all but it has be a solid GOLD price maybe 1k for all buffs that would be fair! Otherwise with below 1000g (or 1k worth mats) i dont wanne see it cause than everyone nonstop spams wbuffs and the feeling of having those is runined!


RE: Quests giving world buff. - Feltham - 01-31-2019

Core is 1.12.1: https://retro-wow.com/page/info


RE: Quests giving world buff. - fanta - 02-04-2019

https://wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/Patch_1.11.0


RE: Quests giving world buff. - Feltham - 02-04-2019

(01-31-2019, 04:04 PM)fanta Wrote: Core is 1.8 i think (not sure) but its for sure before 1.10 so hoh and zanzas presist through death.... ehhh wbuffs on a npcs? i woudnt realy care at all but it has be a solid GOLD price maybe 1k for all buffs that would be fair! Otherwise with below 1000g (or 1k worth mats) i dont wanne see it cause than everyone nonstop spams wbuffs and the feeling of having those is runined!

(02-04-2019, 04:32 PM)fanta Wrote: https://wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/Patch_1.11.0

Okay, so you deleted your old post calling me ignorant which is pretty fucking ironic.

You have mentioned three different baselines in your replies, 1.8, 1.10 and 1.11. So I can't take anything you say seriously because you don't even read your own posts.

So what, you're accusing the developers of putting the wrong Baseline up? Sounds like you don't even like playing here.


RE: Quests giving world buff. - samrogue - 02-04-2019

It's fine if it's used for PvE purposes but in PvP it would be bad idea, because people with DMF and bis are already one shoting everything...


RE: Quests giving world buff. - Feltham - 02-04-2019

(02-04-2019, 09:29 PM)samrogue Wrote: It's fine if it's used for PvE purposes but in PvP it would be bad idea, because people with DMF and bis are already one shoting everything...

Yeah, the only issue is we can't have both at the same time easily. You can be world buffed in battlegrounds, but it doesn't happen frequently so as it currently stands, this is not a big concern. The only way to have both is to make battlegrounds clear world buffs, but we open a can of worms over this - it's a special reservation that never existed before.

But yeah, it could really put a funk on PvP balance if a majority of the geared player base just dumps gold on World Buffs for every game.

I get the concern is from a PvE standpoint, but this problem has plagued WoW during all it's expansions - apply a fix for PvE, adversely affects PvP and vice versa.

You could place the world buff vendor in every raid, or a special version of the world buff such that as soon as you leave the raid it clears. Again, I'm speculating at a high level - something like this may not be implementable.  

Sam's right, there are balance concerns with this request.


RE: Quests giving world buff. - xl2pilc - 02-05-2019

(02-04-2019, 04:53 PM)Feltham Wrote:
(01-31-2019, 04:04 PM)fanta Wrote: Core is 1.8 i think (not sure) but its for sure before 1.10 so hoh and zanzas presist through death.... ehhh wbuffs on a npcs? i woudnt realy care at all but it has be a solid GOLD price maybe 1k for all buffs that would be fair! Otherwise with below 1000g (or 1k worth mats) i dont wanne see it cause than everyone nonstop spams wbuffs and the feeling of having those is runined!

(02-04-2019, 04:32 PM)fanta Wrote: https://wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/Patch_1.11.0

Okay, so you deleted your old post calling me ignorant which is pretty fucking ironic.

You have mentioned three different baselines in your replies, 1.8, 1.10 and 1.11. So I can't take anything you say seriously because you don't even read your own posts.

So what, you're accusing the developers of putting the wrong Baseline up? Sounds like you don't even like playing here.

Lmao I fucking love you Felt.


RE: Quests giving world buff. - fyrinx - 02-05-2019

(02-04-2019, 09:45 PM)Feltham Wrote:
(02-04-2019, 09:29 PM)samrogue Wrote: It's fine if it's used for PvE purposes but in PvP it would be bad idea, because people with DMF and bis are already one shoting everything...

Yeah, the only issue is we can't have both at the same time easily. You can be world buffed in battlegrounds, but it doesn't happen frequently so as it currently stands, this is not a big concern. The only way to have both is to make battlegrounds clear world buffs, but we open a can of worms over this - it's a special reservation that never existed before.

But yeah, it could really put a funk on PvP balance if a majority of the geared player base just dumps gold on World Buffs for every game.

I get the concern is from a PvE standpoint, but this problem has plagued WoW during all it's expansions - apply a fix for PvE, adversely affects PvP and vice versa.

You could place the world buff vendor in every raid, or a special version of the world buff such that as soon as you leave the raid it clears. Again, I'm speculating at a high level - something like this may not be implementable.  

Sam's right, there are balance concerns with this request.
You could just get a bunch of tokens and hand it to vendor for the buff. Perhaps 50 pve tokens or a bunch of tokens from Ashara Crater mobs to hand over to questgiver for it.

Disabling world buffs on BGs is an excellent idea!